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    Quote Originally Posted by ScroogeStooge View Post
    Actually, I don't see it the way you do. I think there's a huge difference between killing zombies and the issues I mentioned. You won't even consider adding it in? I'm talking about limiting the gender stuff and the language specifically. And that's not impossible because I've done it in the files for my own servers. I'm not asking you to stop the zombies.
    I wont get into a morality debate with you because you will lose, but regardless of what you are personally ok with asking for a Rated PG version and then asking for violence to be included is mind shatteringly confusing.

    Ratings exist for a reason. In the world of game ratings a nipple and a head exploding are equally worthy of a Mature. Removing one and not the other does not ever make it PG, even if you think a nipple can cause more damage than a bullet.

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    Options are great. Do I care about this option personally? no But..

    How backwards is OP's reasoning tho. Most children see tits not long after being born, its natural. But violence and gore is something that is considered more normal and ok? Imho It's something no child should become accustomed to seeing. At least until developing their mind and becoming a little less impressionable.

    But its the norm of society, anything that has to do with sex or reproduction is taboo nowadays. If it has to do with killing and violence its a-ok.

    A healthy appreciation for tits is a good thing imo. They are the givers of life. (rotting zombie tits, not so much) I see a problem with kids seeing stripper zombies too, but its because they are zombies getting their heads smashed, not because of their clothes. (or lack thereof)

    #titsaregreat
    #zombiestrippersarepeopletoo

    *Dont take it too seriously, just reading this OP gave me a real o.O wtf moment*

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    Meh. I saw various extremely disturbing movies (Exorcist, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Zombie Flesheaters etc) from the age of 12 and they did me no harm.

    I am as normal as the next serial killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostlight View Post
    Meh. I saw various extremely disturbing movies (Exorcist, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Zombie Flesheaters etc) from the age of 12 and they did me no harm.

    I am as normal as the next serial killer.
    Thank god you didn't see Emmanuelle IV, that would really mess up your childhood, dodged a bullet there.

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    Emmanuelle censored :


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    Wow....a whole bunch in this thread just HAVE to chime in about how someone is parenting and every decision they make as a parent is wrong...

    @OP, You could probably handle the changes yourself with a little bit of legwork since TFP won't even give it the slightest consideration.

    Take a loot at your xml files....whichever one zombies would be in (entities?), search "stripper," find how the zombies are separated and just delete all the lines pertaining to stripper. You might be able to make it use a different zombie model, but removing them completely is probably easier. Additionally, (I'm not sure at all which xml this would be in...quests maybe?) you can find the trader entries and probably copy trader hugh's voice in place of trader rekt.

    As always, you'll want to back up your xmls, detail what changes you made so you can copy them later (each update TFP makes may revert your changes), and test them on a different new game.

    Trader Rekt's voice pisses me off too, and I find myself scrambling to turn down the game volume whenever i run into that trader because of my kids in the same room.
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    So, i made the post...then came back and realized something upon rereading it....

    This forum, which is ONLY for 7 days to die...censors bad language....which TFP then includes in their game with no options for SELF censorship...

    How ironic is that?

    Moderator note: In this case, there was more at issue than bad language. Insults lodged against other users, with or without swearing, are not allowed.
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    It's not that ironic when you consider that here we are dealing with live people.
    People who have a tendency to go overboard with everything and we really don't need posts that ♥♥♥♥ all over all other ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ opinions or ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

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    ♥best thread in years♥

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazz View Post
    It's not that ironic when you consider that here we are dealing with live people.
    People who have a tendency to go overboard with everything and we really don't need posts that ♥♥♥♥ all over all other ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ opinions or ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
    We don't need traders that do that either...

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    I think your world generation idea sounds pretty good, tbh.

    As far as bad trader language - I believe Rekt is the only one with the filthy mouth. You can edit him out of the xmls and replace him with Joel or Bob, they're very friendly and nice.

    And going through the xmls and using find-and-replace, you can turn strippers into nurses or Steve or whatever else you like. There was a bug with rad cops in A16 where they regenned faster than you could kill them, so we replaced them all with feral nurses. It's a pretty easy fix.

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    I don't see how there wouldn't be a single person in a zombie apocalypse who wouldn't want to hunt down and kill all the zombies. Many movies and series show them as unstoppable killing machines, but...

    Sure, from a safety standpoint it is dangerous and may infect you with the Z virus, but on the other hand, you're limiting the amounts of "walking sources of infection". IRL there would be a lot of corpse burning to destroy the pathogens and limit spreading the virus, as well as building appropriate fortifications and bases.

    Just for a moment imagine groups of people training to be faster and stronger than regular Zs (during daylight, but maybe to some extent at night, when they're stronger?), knowing how to dispatch most of them fast (not comparing to left 4 dead, those zombies are way too op) and knowing their weaknesses. I envision it in similar manner as in Bloodborne, where trained hunters seek beasts to kill, some more skilled than others. There could be other examples as demon hunters in Diablo or any other fantasy franchise where people hunt dangerous monsters.

    I already can imagine a number of interesting weapons used for melee, but also ranged. So yeah, i think zombie hunters would be a real thing in a zombie apocalypse.

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    So when is the naked model of Big Mamma going in?

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    These are some really great ideas, I think what I would rather see more than "getting a head start" would be the ability to choose where you first spawn (such as biome, or nearby people on your friends list). Every first session my buddies and I play involves us spending the first night trying to all meet up, with ONE of us always starting in frigging Nevada, and has already made his own zombie casino, (complete with zombie cocktail waitresses and zombie bouncers) by the time we get out to where he is.


    "2. Offer the option to choose one's own preferred landscape/world style. Prior to this latest update(s), I altered the files to generate nice zones near the center of map, with zones getting worse and worse toward the outer edges, with radiation all around. I restricted snow biomes to tops of mountains. I enjoyed that much more. Again, to each his own, but it would be nice to offer those who create the server more options in the start menu. "

    The ability to choose ones preferred landscape would be amazing. I actually was one of the few people who loved having snow biomes to the North and deserts to the South, but your generation sounds even better. Can you pm me and share the set up you used to get the world generation you described, if love to add that into the dedicated server I built for my buddies and I.

    These changes will likely be pretty far out of they ever come at all though... One of us will have to write a stable mod for it. Haha.

    Has anyone written an editor yet that scans a folder filled with modified 7dtd xml files, compares them to the originals ( also stored elsewhere) and then writes an xml file in the games xml directory, with all of the changes it detected between the original files and the modified xml files either added or overwritten in the new xml?
    Tools like that can be a bit messy, and need a good bit if maintenance, but I feel like it can be a pretty good time saver overall.

    @Jaxteller718
    OP'S comment was "mindnumbingly confusing?"

    "I wont get into a morality debate with you because you will lose"

    Did you seriously write that? Why don't you try getting down off that fabulous almighty edgelord high-horse (of +3, of course) you are perched on so you can get a closer perspective.

    Considering the fact that mortality itself is dictated largely by public opinion and fluctuates wildly from time, culture and political climate, the fact that you think someone can "win" a debate on mortality shows just how little you actually know about the subject.

    Seriously people, WTF is going on in this thread?
    It's not like he's calling for the ban of all titties for everyone, he's asking for a very MINOR xml OPTION to be added to the game to save him time after updates, as well as for people who aren't comfortable with digging through and modifying game files

    Some people don't wanna see titties, some people don't want to see violence, or hear what their culture has deemed as "bad language". Some people don't like cream with their coffee, or think films directed by Michael Bay are train wrecks (annnnnd some people don't...)

    OPs views are no more invalid or "confusing" than anyone else's here. It's his frigging opinion. Acting like he's some how wrong is frankly pretty ethnocentric and forgive my bluntness, but comes across to me as a little self absorbed as well.

    Anyways, sorry rant over. I've lived all over the world, and lived in many different cultures, and moving back to the US has probably made me a bit too pissy towards things like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScroogeStooge View Post
    Actually, the way I play, my son and I go hunting during the day and hide from evade zombies typically, so I see nothing wrong what I'm doing. I'd just like you to consider giving people the option to limit that content specifically. Laugh all you want, at least I'm doing something with my kids.
    As much as I'm for family-gaming and everything, and I respect filtering content for the kids, but you're missing something. The game is rated M, which means the intended audience is 17+ -- one step below Adult Only. It's not as simple as programming "if the user picks PG version remove cusswords and boobs" -- not sure how long it would take the devs to add functionality for that -- but it would likely be a few hours. A few hours for something that some 1 out of every 10,000 parents playing the game with their kid in a rated M game wants to make the game more kid-friendly. Time is money, time is also time that could have been used for optimizations, features, bug fixes, etc. That's why the game has modding options -- for stuff that only a handful of people want, things like this. Saying they need to do it because saying "just mod it" is a bad thing is a bit... wrong. If your kid is that young, play Minecraft or another PG- PG13 rated game with him and save 7d2d for yourself. Or, when he's older then play with him.

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