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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfbain5 View Post
    the same ground, but all dead. so will punch to gather plant fibers. only player placed items will most likely be boxed. because having all plants boxed would look like crap. wild blue berries, wild goldenrod
    ah, that makes sense.. however... ALL dead??? Man, that is just wrong, ♥♥♥♥. I used to love trotting through there and grabbing some corn along the way. Although I like the new boxes coming for player farming, this part is not good news at all. So, if they found a way to bring ground based back somehow then I hope they do.

    Also, if I can now press E to harvest my garden, can I also please, pretty please, also do so to pick cotton and flowers in the wild? I usally run around with my bow in hand, I hated having to switch to something else in my toolbelt so that I could hit a ♥♥♥♥ing flower, the result was I just didn't collect anywhere as much as I used to.

    Why is all the corn dead if the flowers and blueberries etc aren't? That seems unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    Even further back a little smell icon would show up on the minimap radiating from your little arrow and you could actually see other players' smell icons on your minimap even if they weren't friended. Their arrow was invisible but their smell could be seen.
    Oh, that's interesting, now I can see why peeps who experienced that now miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locusta View Post
    16.0
    1. Find a hoe
    2. Find or make fertilizer
    3. Use hoe to change to farm soil
    4. Plant seed
    5. Wait to grow
    6. Harvest

    18.0
    1. Craft Planter
    2. Place Planter
    3. Plant seed
    4. Wait to grow
    5. Harvest

    See where it’s less complex?

    I can use the same argument. If I go back further, there would be at least two more steps.

    Your forgetting the immersion aspect and the fact that you plant without making a box first. Those are the important parts.

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    I'm not arguing that 16 was more complex because it was. When comparing it to 17.4 it is actually making it more of a challenge when you look at the ingredients required.

    I'm glad they're adding fertilizer back. The hoe isn't really necessary. I've built gardens in real life. I dig up some earth with a shovel. Build a box around it. Place a protective cover on the bottom. Add soil and fertilizer. Plant seeds. I have never owned a hoe.

    edit: I would like to add that I would still like to see a non-planter version you can place in/on the ground to blend in so it looks exactly like the current farm blocks. Soil and fertilizer mixed together minus the wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmole View Post
    Yeah I gotta keep my mouth shut... but hey time has flown the last day
    Don't do that. The forum was never more boring until you mentioned those issues. Lol.

    And we're still friends. Just friends that have a different opinion about something, which makes friendships interesting.

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    The easiest way to add smell back into the game would be to tie it into the heat map system. Aka bunch of raw or cooked meat generates x heat which could spawn screamer/ horde. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falloutcloud View Post
    I'm not arguing that 16 was more complex because it was. When comparing it to 17.4 it is actually making it more of a challenge when you look at the ingredients required.

    I'm glad they're adding fertilizer back. The hoe isn't really necessary. I've built gardens in real life. I dig up some earth with a shovel. Build a box around it. Place a protective cover on the bottom. Add soil and fertilizer. Plant seeds. I have never owned a hoe.

    edit: I would like to add that I would still like to see a non-planter version you can place in/on the ground to blend in so it looks exactly like the current farm blocks. Soil and fertilizer mixed together minus the wood.
    My point was is doesn’t really matter what alpha your comparing. Farming is being treated as an inconvenience or something that is quote “optional”, instead of being an important aspect of the game you can progress in. It, like other systems, are being chipped away for the new meta...looting.

    Also, the only ones who could ever own hoes are TFP. Zazing!

    Edit: I think I’ve expressed my concerns enough about this. I’ll hold out to see if MM changes his mind or wait for A18.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Locusta View Post

    Also, the only ones who could ever own hoes are TFP. Zazing!


    Loc
    So that's why they are changing Farming!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti2xGr View Post
    So do most red heads...but fun also equals psycho in many cases.
    Shhhh! Don't you know you can't talk about..."THOSE" people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVN_0qvuhhw

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieHorde View Post
    Shhhh! Don't you know you can't talk about..."THOSE" people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVN_0qvuhhw
    Spot on, I almost posted the same thing.

    I am one of "those", and only a ginger can call another ginger ginger

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmole View Post
    One idea would be to add a fertilizer item and then you upgrade ground with it, and craft plots with it. Then you wouldn't waste nitrate repairing traps, but honestly I just want to keep it as is, we're in content lock and fiddling with this ♥♥♥♥ will just set us back. modders can easily restore the old way if they are married to it for now, I don't want to break content lock because a few angry guys who haven't even tried it aren't happy.
    Hey, that's a good idea. Because it's promoting time spent into what feels like a different mechanic. I know clicking on a block isn't different, but because it's a different tool and result, it feels like it.

    Leaving it as it is for now is okay for now, but please understand that most of us loved the more in-depth gaming style and differences the game offered. That's what impressed me about early game. Not just zombie killing and looting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unholyjoe View Post
    its the weekend... devs enjoying it with families and the crumb system does not work the way you think... catch faatal's attention if you can after the weekend... maybe he can enlighten the topic.
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    So... yes, a crumb system is nice... BUT...

    ALL of the Devs are taking a break THIS weekend... FOR... NEXT WEEKEND!!!!!

    Oh, all the signs are there, getting completely rested for the final push and the following working weekend of hotfixes!

    So, Monday is it for us!!! Somebody called it first, was it Guppy? Good call whomever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldranon View Post
    So... yes, a crumb system is nice... BUT...

    ALL of the Devs are taking a break THIS weekend... FOR... NEXT WEEKEND!!!!!

    Oh, all the signs are there, getting completely rested for the final push and the following working weekend of hotfixes!

    So, Monday is it for us!!! Somebody called it first, was it Guppy? Good call whomever!
    Is that enough time to test the two builds MM hasnít played yet? Iím holding my hype for now.


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    No, I had yesterday... So I'm out already.

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    I'm still believing October sometime. If it isn't October, then I'll be surprised, but if the release date turns out to be October, then I won't be "disappointed". :P

    (No disappointment would be felt; it will come out when it will come out.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombiepoptard View Post
    If I wanted to play a looter shooter Iíd play borderlands because 7dtd gun play sucks big time and I donít see a big revamp. People like the game because you can do anything in it. Build, Farm, Kill zombies, set traps, cook and craft. Nothing should be developed to take a back seat. It builds immersion and creates relaxing sections in between the action to reduce burnout. Farming defiantly needs to be more LITTLE bit more complex.
    Exactly! I love the build up 'til day 7, but otherwise I miss zombies being an essential nuisance to all the other things you had to do to prepare for it.

    Killing zombies gets annoying if you have to do it too much, which is where all the other system in early 7 days came in to make this really great blend of survival and balance of tasks.

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    My current game has high biome spawns and I gotta say, the constant harassment is preventing me from looting pois and it's a real struggle to get prepared for blood moons... 4 deaths, only three pois looted, bears and wolves (thank God for the meat!) but no forge, or any other workstation except a campfire... Found ONE pot, still no grill so living off of wasted meat (charred).

    And it's a blast. Had my day 7 and it was easy, but the rest has been a challenge.

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