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    Seeds and Farming

    Just a quick question regarding 17.3 and farming.

    I am sure that I am just missing something, but on the wiki, it says that you have to get Living Off the Land perk up to 5 to generate 5 output from farming. I guess I am missing something here. It takes 4 'wild' plants to make one seed. Plant that seed and then you got 5 in your harvest. You need 4 of that harvest to create 1 more seed to plant. This leaves you with 1 usable plant. Which is exactly what you would have had just picking the one plant.

    What then is the point?

    I am SURE that I am missing something though and someone can correct me.

    Thanks in advance.

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    When you harvest the plant remains and begins another growing phase. No need to replace the original plant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCrook1028 View Post
    When you harvest the plant remains and begins another growing phase. No need to replace the original plant.
    Thank you for the reply. So then am is it correct that the only way to get a positive outcome of farming is to have a 5 in Living off The Land?

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    It takes a bit of time to get enough seeds planted, but once you do, it's always positive. You'll never have to make new seeds. Once they're planted, they are permanent unless you destroy them.

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    Getting enough plants going will take a bit. Harvest, convert, plant.

    One you have say 20 plants, and say get 3 back for harvest, that's 60 food, and still 20 plants growing.

    If you want to move your plants, say to now separate the types, you can punch the seedlings and get the seed back.

    3 or 4 is lots in LotL. 5 would be more for MP and you're the farmer of the group.

    Now, if the plant didn't stay, then we'd have howls of outrage of having to have 5 in the perk just to stay ahead.

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    just keep making seeds and planting them. eventually you will have a farm big enough to produce plenty, and make it so you no longer have to craft seeds. It just takes time and patience

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianbluebeer View Post
    Getting enough plants going will take a bit. Harvest, convert, plant.

    One you have say 20 plants, and say get 3 back for harvest, that's 60 food, and still 20 plants growing.

    If you want to move your plants, say to now separate the types, you can punch the seedlings and get the seed back.

    3 or 4 is lots in LotL. 5 would be more for MP and you're the farmer of the group.

    Now, if the plant didn't stay, then we'd have howls of outrage of having to have 5 in the perk just to stay ahead.
    Thanks all for the replies. That was what I was missing is that the plant stays. The last time I farmed in 7DtD, it was in a version that you had to use part of your harvest to create more seeds. Was an a pretty fun system. But with the plant staying in the ground, that should give you a positive output even with a level 1 in the perk. Cool.

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    A16 harvesting: Ok
    A17 harvesting: Overnerfed,requires 3 points in living off the land to have the same spread/gains as in A16.

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    A16 harvesting: Ok
    A17 harvesting: Overnerfed,requires 2 points in living off the land to have the same crop gain as A16,3 points to have slightly more spread speed than A16. That's not counting the fertilizer in A16...

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    I wish farming would be something that the player can influence more. At this point it's simply gathering seeds and planting them in a hoed ground. No need of water, fertilizer, no chance of destroying the plant (even when harvesting)... Stressless farming i tell ya...

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    I agree somewhat to this. I know in the past, Madmole made the comment that he didn't want 7DtD to be a farming simulator and I agree with him. However, I wish that the farming aspect was more involved. I also wish that they didn't put in the existing gardens all through the world. With these gardens that you can harvest, there really is no need for farming. Just explore a little and you are set up for a month or so in game.

    I advocated at one time for the destruction of your garden/farms by wondering zeds. The loss of your food input mid to late game would really shake up things. And I like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khulkhuum View Post
    I wish farming would be something that the player can influence more. At this point it's simply gathering seeds and planting them in a hoed ground. No need of water, fertilizer, no chance of destroying the plant (even when harvesting)... Stressless farming i tell ya...
    I made a blood-oath to never say this, but.....I think it'd be a good idea to bring back zombie destruction of crops. The only thing I'd ask is that a zombie walking on your crop should have something less than a 100% chance for the crop to be destroyed. 50/50 sounds reasonable.


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    zombies destroying crops would be a good idea. It would still be easy to get around by just growing more. Already it is simple to make more crops than one would ever need

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khulkhuum View Post
    Stressless farming i tell ya...
    If you feel stress when you're gardening, you're doing something wrong. Personally I wouldn't mind if you had to take more care of the garden. I would even enjoy it.

    But you shouldn't go so far as to turn the garden into a battlefield because zombies come from everywhere to destroy the plants.

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    Wait for food spoilage @RipClaw. Then you have to time exactly when to plant, wich seed and how much of them until you are able to store your food for longer. Meh. Then we will have the farming simulator. Ironic, when i think of countless occassions where TFP said they donīt want a farming sim.

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