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    Alpha 17.4 commentary & not-bugs

    Here's a thread for all the off-topic commentary posted in the A17.4 bug reporting thread(s). Remember, those threads are strictly for bug reports only.
    Last edited by Crater Creator; 05-25-2019 at 07:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odetta View Post
    Summary: No bonus resources on kill (tree, boulder, animal, ore, etc.)
    Platform: PC
    OS/Version: Windows 10
    Game mode: SP 17.4exp

    Did you wipe old saves? y
    Did you start a new game? y
    Did you validate your files? y
    Are you using any mods? n
    EAC: On

    Status: Old (since 17.3exp)

    Bug Description: No Bonus resources on kill for anything. Sometimes on the last hit you get no resources at all.

    Reproduce steps: Harvest a resource to it's end to repo


    Actual result: No bonus, sometimes nothing on last kill hit.

    Expected result: Bonus resources.
    Not a bug, the bonus resources WERE a bug and were fixed in 17.3. As the bonus was roughly letting you get double out of the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scyris View Post
    Not a bug, the bonus resources WERE a bug and were fixed in 17.3. As the bonus was roughly letting you get double out of the same thing.
    I don't see it on the 17.3 fix list, and throwing uncomplimentary characterizations around might be a great way to end a conversation, but it's not a basis for rational discussion. I think risk/reward decisions are fun. Anybody that doesn't should argue for taking headshots out of the game, they let you do double damage out of the same thing. See? The destruction bonus rewarded staying on task, so there was a reward for focusing in to complete a task despite mounting risk. It didn't give double, it just backloaded the reward so you really want uninterrupted time on task to get maximum value out of your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TempestChaserZ View Post
    Summary: Short School Bus able to be looted from a distance equal to Michael Jordan's arm at the end of Space Jam

    Spoiler: 

    Version: A17.4 B4
    Platform: PC
    OS/Version: Windows
    Game mode: MP Host and Clients on Direct Connect. Random Gen, Map Name: NEW UTAFO VALLEY ( I can't remember the seed code I used)

    Did you wipe old saves? Yes
    Did you start a new game? Yes
    Did you validate your files? Yes
    Are you using any mods? No
    EAC on or off ? Whatever is default, so I believe on.

    Status: NEW

    Bug Description: The short school busses are able to be looted from a comical distance away.

    Reproduce steps:
    1) Locate School Bus in Distance
    2) Approach bus
    3) See the loot option from large distance

    Actual result: Able to loot bus from long distance

    Expected result: Need to be significantly closer to bus to loot.

    (Obviously not a top priority bug, but one I wanted to make sure was known)
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    (edit added comment by QA Tester-unholyjoe)

    this was reported once before and closed as is by design. i can ask again but no promises. i do believe there was a reason that this had to be.

    thanks

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    LOL, Space Jam is my Jam

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    Quote Originally Posted by TempestChaserZ View Post
    Summary: Short School Bus able to be looted from a distance equal to Michael Jordan's arm at the end of Space Jam

    Spoiler: 

    Version: A17.4 B4
    Platform: PC
    OS/Version: Windows
    Game mode: MP Host and Clients on Direct Connect. Random Gen, Map Name: NEW UTAFO VALLEY ( I can't remember the seed code I used)

    Did you wipe old saves? Yes
    Did you start a new game? Yes
    Did you validate your files? Yes
    Are you using any mods? No
    EAC on or off ? Whatever is default, so I believe on.

    Status: NEW

    Bug Description: The short school busses are able to be looted from a comical distance away.

    Reproduce steps:
    1) Locate School Bus in Distance
    2) Approach bus
    3) See the loot option from large distance

    Actual result: Able to loot bus from long distance

    Expected result: Need to be significantly closer to bus to loot.

    (Obviously not a top priority bug, but one I wanted to make sure was known)
    Attachment 28498



    ***************************************

    (edit added comment by QA Tester-unholyjoe)

    this was reported once before and closed as is by design. i can ask again but no promises. i do believe there was a reason that this had to be.

    thanks

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    I noticed this bug aswell and i cant see a reason why this should be "by design". You can loot buses from half a Football field and it is very wierd to say the least. If possible, it would be great to hear from a technical Point of view, why this has to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathawaits4 View Post
    I noticed this bug aswell and i cant see a reason why this should be "by design". You can loot buses from half a Football field and it is very wierd to say the least. If possible, it would be great to hear from a technical Point of view, why this has to be
    iirc it had something to do with the size of the assets.

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    unholyjoe, could you please let us know what it says on your koozie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamida View Post
    unholyjoe, could you please let us know what it says on your koozie
    1st.. dont know what a koozie is but if its what i think you are talking about... its my big coffee cup that Kumquat sent because of what i always say... and you asked for it!

    also, that was a can of DR Pepper sitting in the cup.

    cup-of-Joe.jpg


    this also has nothing to do with bug reporting so mods may move it.

    Gotta be the bad guy here, Joe - no profanity allowed in images. I took the liberty of editing the image so you don't have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinda View Post
    iirc it had something to do with the size of the assets.
    Hmm.. I dont think that is a technical issue tho. The hitbox of the Object is working fine and they could in theory just use the normal hitbox as loot reference.

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    Healing items still broken im assuming. Sorry to not test on the new exp, but on all 17.x versions, clients in p2p can right-click on medical items and use them without consuming them and its not in the patch notes so i'm assuming it's still a thing.(works almost every time for clients, somewhat rare to the host)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk949 View Post
    Healing items still broken im assuming. Sorry to not test on the new exp, but on all 17.x versions, clients in p2p can right-click on medical items and use them without consuming them and its not in the patch notes so i'm assuming it's still a thing.(works almost every time for clients, somewhat rare to the host)
    Correct. Not in change log, not fixed.

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    This may be unworthy of a bug report because it's so trivial, but... I noticed in God mode that you can bleed (and as a result take damage), and also you can sustain a broken ankle. IMO nothing should affect the player in God mode. Seen in all versions of 17 including 17.4 exp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beta123 View Post
    This may be unworthy of a bug report because it's so trivial, but... I noticed in God mode that you can bleed (and as a result take damage), and also you can sustain a broken ankle. IMO nothing should affect the player in God mode. Seen in all versions of 17 including 17.4 exp.
    It could also be a philosophical statement ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scyris View Post
    Not a bug, the bonus resources WERE a bug and were fixed in 17.3. As the bonus was roughly letting you get double out of the same thing.
    This reminds me of Anthem.
    Game: does something bad
    Player: *complain*
    Game update fixes it.
    Players: *happy*
    Game update gets reverted because its just a bug.

    I don't care if it was a bug. It was one of the very few things I actually gave A17 credit for.
    If they are worried about balance just lower the initial gain.
    But beeing rewarded for finishing up something is a "bug" I have discussed at length and EVERYONE (not a single person out of like 10) was super excited that they finally brought it back.



    Sometimes I feel like they honestly don't play their own game. Like... I know some do... but they don't have QA Testers... so they just go by what they think should be fun and not what actually is fun.
    This is just a small feature that gave SO MUCH FLAIR and it gets removed.
    Like... it actually took them effort to remove a good thing. Its mindboggling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unholyjoe View Post
    1st.. dont know what a koozie is but if its what i think you are talking about... its my big coffee cup that Kumquat sent because of what i always say... and you asked for it!

    also, that was a can of DR Pepper sitting in the cup.

    cup-of-Joe.jpg


    this also has nothing to do with bug reporting so mods may move it.

    Gotta be the bad guy here, Joe - no profanity allowed in images. I took the liberty of editing the image so you don't have to.
    Thank you Joe. I just saw the Dr. Pepper can with something around it and thought it was a koozie. That is those sleeves you usually see people put cans of beer in to keep them cooler longer.
    I can sleep now...

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