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    Console to PC Questions

    Hey all,

    So for quite some time I've been contemplating about upgrading, or rather adding a PC to my collection of options. Problem is, I'll admit to being rather ignorant to required specs and such these days. 7D2D is definitely one of my top favorites to date, but I want to make absolutely sure if I buy a PC, the damn thing will actually work smoothly lol.

    I've seen some "Gaming" PC's on Amazon, see them for $600 and that's not quite bad in price, but I know you get what you pay for in the end as well. I'm not looking to spend thousands, maybe upgrades down the road, but for right now, something that can handle 7D2D, maybe even Skyrim because of the multitude of mods to experience. But anyway, I could definitely use some help. If you tend to browse Amazon, and see one within reasonable specs/price, maybe you can suggest that one. Either way, any help would be greatly appreciated.

    One other aspect is I would plan to use my TV. I'm not worried about 4k blah blah blah, but I definitely don't want to sit at a desk. My only question is would this affect say game play, or response any? Could it disrupt FPS? Just curious really cause despite it being a TV and not 4k, it'd still look pretty damn good.

    Now, as for the game itself. I know the gap between console and PC has been extended even greater than what it was before. I've tried to read up on many aspects, but maybe someone with more up to date knowledge regarding some aspects would obviously be easier than trying to find tidbits in between the many many posts.

    1). A17 introduced Digging. This is an aspect that to be honest turned me off. No, it's not because I cant hide or some lame excuse people like to blame on others, I simply love the concept of building an underground forge/workshop near the center of the map to store my materials because I always seek to build multiple bases in various regions (and yes, I build above ground and stay above ground aside from mining). I do keep one local as well, but a central hub is just awesome in my opinion. So, with that said, has anything been said or hinted that at some point in future alpha's, that this can be toggled off? Because unless it's been fixed, the last time I heard anything about it, zombies magically had lazer guidance radar, which is a bs mechanic that I won't go I to a rant about lol. Or at the least, has it been improved that I obviously don't know about to where it's not ridiculous OP? Cause I'm not going to waste time building if they'll just simply destroy the entire area with pot holes.

    2). If I'm being honest, if console could have gotten just one more update that gave us the New POI's, the additional skins, the upgraded Navezgane map, and importantly the painting system, I would've been happy. Hell, I would've gladly paid for that. I wouldn't argue against other aspects if it dealt with say stability, or work on smoother controls, but what I stated before would've been perfect in my opinion.

    So I've seen posts where others are playing older versions of the game, and is it safe to say it wouldn't be difficult to just play Alpha 16.whatever it ended on? Cause honestly, that's basically the version that matched my wishes for console.

    Again, any help, suggestions and answers would be appreciated. Cause if I do decide to take that next step forward, I'd like to be somewhat prepared.

    I love 7D2D, don't get me wrong. The biggest appeal aside game play has been the options. Classic zombie apocalypse? Set to only walking speed. Want a virus/28 Days Later/WWZ? Set em to always run. Options to personalize the game to how you want is what makes this game even more amazing if you ask me. As long a TFP's continue to update to how they envision it to be, (which is perfectly fine, just don't turn into 7 Days To GTA stupidity), yet continue to allow us to customize the options so we can all customize it how we find it to be perfect, then perhaps they will have made one of the best games I've ever played in my life. That's not me being a fanboy, that's me being a gamer that's given multiple options to keep a game fresh and fun to keep coming back to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jysen View Post

    1). A17 introduced Digging.
    Actually it reintroduced they was in then taken out for reasons until they could get back to them. Some improvements are still being worked on. As far as turning them off idk MAYBE later from my understanding but it take a lot and will take away from getting other things done so not right now.

    You can play other alphas right now easily not sure how far back it goes I forget I think like A11 or something idk give or take something like that.
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    I would think of building your own PC and plan to spend around $1000.00. Newegg has a lot of options for motherboards, memory, CPU combos or choose your own combination. Get a decent case and a decent 600 watt power or more power supply, for the first time build stick to case fans and a good heatsink-fan CPU cooling - although now days the water cooling is pretty much just plug and play. You can check out some Newegg reviews to pick the right parts for your build and then find a good tutorial on the web to build your PC. I would go with a socket 2066 myself to use a good i7 but you can skimp and go with a lesser system with a lesser i7 or even an i5 and spend more on the video card. I believe this game is really CPU intensive so a better CPU might be in order. There are so many paths to pick when you build, guys will say AMD some will say Intel same with Nvidia and AMD in video card market.

    The digging zombies is a bit ridiculous but just find a way to keep them out. My fist play in A17 I had an underground storage center built from concrete and I had 3 forges 24/7 and there was only one time I had to worry about it. It is just as hard to pound through concrete underground as it is above ground, meaning that they can go through dirt like knife through butter but they cannot get through concrete any easier underground than above ground.
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    I have been using a pc with a tv for atleast 10+ years. Hooking up a PC to a TV does not effect the fps or anything else for that matter. The TV is just a display. It can get a little more complicated like refresh rate and what not but since this is your first time, no need to worry about that.
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    You will be fine playing at whatever place you sit to play. There is no difference other than if you want to use the mouse at your side on you couch or easy chair. I could never get used to a joypad for much of anything other than driving games.
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    Wow, I did not know they actually could dig in the past. Sadly I only seen the game from a console point of view in terms of personal game play (So alpha 15 with a tidbit of 16 if I read right), so very limited knowledge of previous versions. I will say it has definitely come a long way over the years (I got into watching a YouTuber (J.C's Channel) who I do give credit as for learning structural integrity lol, but I did get to see the progression in visuals/crafting/gathering Resources which was kind of wild how it progressed. Im just hoping they do find a way to allow us to toggle the option on and off though. I'm not entirely opposed to digging, but when ya want that semi classic zombie feeling atmosphere, kinda ruins it sadly.

    So the old adage of what you pay for is what you get definitely apply's here for the game it seems. I'm still in the debating stage with myself as I window shop per say on a PC, but I appreciate the insight obviously. I was wondering if there was any actual reason to lean toward with the AMD or Intel brand, but much like any competing products, there's always those who swear with one side as the better over the other lol. But it's clear I do want to spend that little extra as it will definitely go a much longer way in the end now.

    As for PC to TV, I figured as much, but you always come across those myth's and misconceptions on the truth of the matter. Usually from fanboys who I very much detest lol. But I do appreciate the confirmation none the less. I rather ask a stupid question to get to the truth than not ask and have it cost me lol.

    But again, much appreciated for the responses. No lie, despite the obvious limitations of the console version, it's still beyond fun for me, soooo, I can imagine when I finally do get to experience the actual current versions, I'll probably lose my mind lol.

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    Do yourself a favor and invest in a PC, I am a PC gamer since C64 and I do not really like consoles too much. Just do some research and please buy two of those Samsung M2 SSDs those thing defy logic at 3400 MBps read rates and 2500 MBps write rates https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-e...82E16820147691

    A pair of those, one for OS and one for games and you will see load speeds and bootups I cannot even imagine. Also they fit inside the Mobo so you do not need any more SATA cables, you can just have an external storage drive and that would free up cables with a modular Power Supply. That way you would only need the 24 pin Mobo cable the 8 pin ATX 1 or 2, 6 to 8 pin PCI Express for your card and some molex cables for your fans. Less crap in your PC is always a good thing. I used to have a passion for UV cables and UV lights but that phase kind of left and now I am more into less clutter.

    I like this Mobo myself as it has all I would need, this would need a 2066 socket CPU which are not cheap however: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144060

    I am into this processor: https://www.newegg.com/core-i7-x-ser...82E16819117961

    I am thinking about micro ATX motherboards (even though I have had only ATX motherboards in all but one Socket 939 build with an AMD 4000fx) as they allow more airflow in your case and I am a fan cooling guy and most likely will always be one, my first build was in 2005 so I have been at it a while.

    I would suggest at least a GTX 1070 for smooth FPS. Speaking of FPS that is the great thing about consoles they tend to just run on whatever game you buy without worrying about performance most the time. PC gamers are always worrying about getting the best FPS and tweaking this and that, but it is part of the PC gaming mentality to say "yeah I got 80FPS in so and so game with all settings maxed".

    Get a power supply that may seem too much like a 800 to 1000 watt from a well respected brand like EVGA, Corsair, PC Power and Cooling, I have lost a couple of PCs due to my power supply isues so this is something to really consider and I would not bother with SLI or Crossfire too much unless your loaded or something.

    Building a PC is really not hard to do, the one thing I hate is the backplate and CPU Heatsink/fan and the thermal grease, I always get nervous when using the thermal paste "did i use to much or to little" the base of the heatsink can slip around too which irritates the piss out of me also tightening the heaatsink can be scary to make the base and CPU as tight as you can without tightening too much. Oh an the power switch headers are also a pain to do. I hope this does not scare you out of it because when you start to install your OS you will be proud. Do a little Prime95 to see stability and you will have a PC YOU built not some company that built it for you.

    Sorry guys I know I have been living on this forum but its because I like you guys and have too much time on my hands. I am really just trying to help and be a part of the community but you can always ignore me I guess.
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    Holy crap....

    I knew I had become ignorant to PC's/technology over the years , but this just proved it beyond comprehension lol.

    If I can ask for an opinion, if you were to look at the gaming towers they offer, what would catch your interest? Obviously, the benefit to PC's has always been the ability to constantly upgrade, so finding a decent starting point which I could then progress might be the best route for me. Not only does it provide the immediate upgrade to PC, but that hands on aspect would definitely click my brain into grasping it all again.

    Don't have to, but I am curious no doubt. I'll need to do some catching up on it all (yay internet), but for sake of learning, if I ended up, say spending $700, or even $500 on a tower, and plan to upgrade with what you've suggested from that point, is there any concern to size of the housing, or performance issues as far as compatibility with the other components?

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    Buy a good case and you can upgrade for decades, I have been a Lian Li man myself but there are others, I also always buy full tower cases and I have only had one mid tower.

    So are you thinking of building your own PC yet? What is your budget for just the case and power supply and I could check out something on Newegg for you? I would really stay away from Amazon with PC parts if I were too, its just a thing with me to buy components from Newegg and fans and cases from Performance PCs in Florida for their custom cases and custom fans and cables, which would not be needed for the most part.

    Perhaps you can show me a pre-built PC you are looking at and I could check the specs for you.

    You do not need near $500 to $700 for a case that's for sure. Let me know what the entire budget would be and I can pick a good case out for you, you should not scrimp on a case because upgrading is dependent on what case you buy and also how easy to install your components. A full tower means that you have lots of space to install your mobo and run your cables without being so cramped that you can barley run cables around the tight space in your case.

    Sometimes I am guilty of not reading all of the post but I will look at newegg and see if they have some good cases.
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    If you do go with building your own PC, here is the site to use to plan it out:

    https://pcpartpicker.com/

    Will help so you don't get parts that aren't compatible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jysen View Post
    If I can ask for an opinion, if you were to look at the gaming towers they offer, what would catch your interest?
    If a PC doesn't have this it's a deal breaker for me.

    64bit OS
    at LEAST 8GB DDR 4 Ram
    Performance GPU made in the last 2 years. ($200 minimum typically)

    Anything less than that and you are going to be WAY behind the curve in 6 months time.

    Another thing to note is console 7D2D and PC 7D2D are SO different. I believe the Console ver. hasn't been updated in over 2 years. Even the last release was behind the PC release at the time.

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    Lian Li has been making custom cases with a lot of unneeded extras lately I love my 2 Lian Li full towers so its a shame.

    I checked out this case and it simple and can accept Micro ATX motherboards as well as EATX and ATX which will be good for any later mobo swapping in the future: https://www.newegg.com/black-phantek...03?reviews=all as well as lots of fans and plenty of room to move around in.

    If you let me know what GPU you want I can pick out a power supply suggestion but I would go for something 800 watt just to be sure, it may use less power but that better than requiring more power you might need later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreCircuit View Post
    If you do go with building your own PC, here is the site to use to plan it out:

    https://pcpartpicker.com/

    Will help so you don't get parts that aren't compatible.
    Well I guess it could be done but the likelihood of picking parts that are not comparable are not that high. A Case that accepts your form factor and the right socket CPU for a mobo is fairly easy to pick and now days the M2 SSD seem to be M.2 2280 standard on most mobos so that is easy enough to pick. Someone buying a LGA 1151 CPU for a LGA 2066 mobo would not usually happen. Not too many people buy DDR3 for a DDR4 motherboard.

    Although it is possible for someone to buy a CPU with 16 PCI Express lanes and putting a 16x Video card and a 4x M2 SSD could be common.

    That's why I would go with a 2066 i7, for those 44 PCI Express lane. When I bought my i7 3960x I did not even know about the limitations, but that CPU was an Xtreme edition so I lucked out.

    I have a 1200watt of these line of power supplies and this one seems to be a sweet spot https://www.newegg.com/corsair-ax-se...82E16817139158

    This will run a GTX 1080 but for SLI which I feel is unnecessary would need more power.
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    lots of ram (minimum 16 gig), decent psu that can supply enougth amps to a damn good gfx card, plenty of decent cooling

    dont skimp on getting cheap bits, a good motherboard future upgradeable
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    Yeah 16gb seems to be the sweet spot.

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