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    Actually, it made perfect sense to me lol.

    Judging by that, you could really make some amazing and unique maps.

    I love the fact you can determine the biomes, no more idiotic patches of wasteland, or absurdities such as Snow bordering Desert. I can easily see myself become lost in customizing the biomes.

    I've seen it mentioned about the height map. I could see that taking a few tries to fully control it. I'm not a fan of entire maps being wrecked by cliffs, but with a few base ideas in mind, I can appreciate some mountain ranges for a more natural feel to help fill that desire.

    And the more Towns, Traders, all the better.

    If I did understand this right, will you be able to see towns/cities placement and still alter biomes and height afterward? I'd love to have a town or two surrounded by a Mountain region for visual effects, just not on said mountain lol.

    I guess my only concern would be the road system. If it's predetermined from towns and cities, and then you adjust height, vertical roads ain't fun lol.

    I've changed maps so often it's become tedious. Being able to customize them would seriously enable me to remain on a single map. Though I must say I would love to see Navezgane as well, cause from what I've seen, it looks amazing, though still limited in a sense, but amazingly hand crafted none the less.

    Though I do believe I've finally found the most ideal map seed on console that I've been constantly searching for. Though I had to delete the original game, and restarted it, but this time with creative mode on. Plus was joined by my friend who resides in another town.

    Aside from the underground bunkers in the game, I have zero desire to build out of a POI again. I really thought I wanted to build out of a Red Mesa, but that previous attempt only proved to myself I don't want a POI anymore. As I want to build multiple bases, can't afford stupid spawning to wreck my efforts. Plus, the sheer amount of overhauling is beyond ridiculous to be honest. I had a vision in mind, and actually started it, but busting concrete walls just to replace them with various colored blocks to achieve visual enhancements is really too much. This is where I'm envy of the painting system, though the spawning issue would still plague it.

    Plus, despite the map appearing to be desirable, once I made my way to the nearby snow town, I became disgusted. A small town in size, but over half of it was void of buildings, and what buildings it did have, a few were graveyards... Add in the damn wasteland patches I've encountered, nah, think that game is dead now. But damn, was the closest I've ever been to a Trader in any game I've ever played. Oh well, Traders on console are ridiculous anyway, beyond over priced and unless lucky with treasure maps, not enough methods to obtain dukes. 1 bullet can cost 50 Dukes at minimun, or reinforced steel, which takes 10 to upgrade 1 block, costs over 90 Dukes. 900 dukes to upgrade 1 damn block lol. At best, once the skill is high enough in bartering, it's still roughly 81 dukes. And to think I would have 2000+ reinforced steel, And decorative items like bookcases, air conditioners, fuseboxes, etc. I mean maybe it was semi balanced with treasure maps, I've had some that gave 15k dukes, or 7k, but still, the sheer cost without getting that lucky is simply ignorant.

    Plus, now I don't need to depend on Traders for the cosmetic items. Filing cabinets, bookcases, etc. I've figured out some methods to still gain XP from crafting while using resources to still have to earn what I build. I'll still use Traders, but now I don't have to pray to the RNG gods to actually have anything in stock. (Previous Navezgane map, 109 days in, 5 Traders to visit, 4 bookcases. Just 4).

    Yeah, I need a damn PC lol

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    In A18 the forgesd steel at the traders is 100 for each piece making learning a new schematic useless unless you get enough garbage to sell. the crossbow was something ridiculous like 15-20 forged steel or something along that, so at 100 a piece you would need 2,000 to build a single crossbow. If you found the crucible schematic early on you would be in luck, then you could pump out forged steel easily, which seems to be a commodity on demand in most crafting schematics.

    Forged Iron is possible on the git-go, if you have a forge at a nearby trader, you can pump out forged iron easily and the scrap iron is everywhere. The bellows now is an attachment to the forge where the tool and die used to be, which increases the forge crafting speed. I have to say, I really do not know why the forge needed to be updated in the new alpha it is just kind of out of logic compared to the A16 & A17. There is the anvil, crucible and now the bellows as attachments to the forge. I suppose the tool &die set is gone, so I do not know what I will need to pump out bullet casing and lead tips yet.
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    I've seen where they added in two versions of the bellows, and question the point of it aside their way of dealing with the original LBD system and reducing crafting times with skill progression.

    Granted, it wasn't a perfect system, it needed to be balanced so you progressed smoothly and not painfully, but I'm on the same side as those who prefer the LBD system than simply perks.

    Though to be fair, 2000 dukes to build a crossbow isn't bad actually. The only upgrading is if your skills/perks increase quality, and you only need repair kits to maintain it. Now if you had to build 1000's to raise quality like in the past, A16, that would become ridiculous. Plus, now that Traders offer quests, gaining Dukes isn't really an issue on the PC side.

    I still have to save extra schematics, gun parts, and pain killers to sell, and hope that treasure map dishes out a lot of Dukes just to buy like a 340 sniper for 14k. And that's if I even get some maps, or the Trader is even selling anything lol. I've played some games where I had a nice stock pile maps, plus 80k or more saved, while other games (recent normal game) I went I would say 40 days straight without finding one. And as my luck has it, went to the nearby Trader who was selling that 14k sniper, and I waited at the last second to see what the air drop gave me, sure enough, sniper rifle in the box lol. Ended up buying that sniper anyway, gave me a back up incase I died lol

    As for tool and die kit/calipers, wonder if it's just "natural" now to craft like anything else in the forge, just need the anvil. I kind of liked having to struggle to find them, or buy them to make ammo. But then again, as the game becomes more and more looter and loses its own uniqueness, no point to keep it. Gotta stay fast and cheap so we can all play 7 Days to Fortnite.

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    I got the crossbow schematics on day 2 and I needed ammo and other things more than the crossbow, sure I could eventually get the forged steel at 2,000, but I also wanted to get my bicycle going and that was a priority. I will take your advice and do some quest in the new game I started.

    All in all the game is a lot different in A18, so it will take a while to find the best path to get where I want to be, which would be building a massive base as usual.

    I want to let you know, do not get less than 32Gb, I had some apps running and some were chewing up free ram and I ended up with half the usual performance, about 36 FPS compared to 60 FPS. I had to reboot to clear the ram and turn of some TSRs as well.
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    Yeah, that early game moments of deciding what is needed more over the other sucks lol. Like myself, can build a minibike on day 2, but needed resources more than anything, soooo, iron goes to tools. And being still on the LBD system, what I can craft is really really crappy lol.

    But I do enjoy those early moments. Scavenging for anything to be useful, and using only what you have, not what you decide to take from a massive arsenal. Still, it does suck none the less when I was on like day 91ish, abundance of resources, max quality tools and high tier weapons, just to delete it all and start all over where I have a nearly broken wrench of 91 quality and haven't found another one yet lol.

    I really hope A18 is better than my skepticism. Still have much reservations on it all.

    If I build a PC, it'd only be for gaming, but I decided I wanted 32gb from the start. But thanks for the heads up as usual. I just wish I could be talking about A18 with you from experience of playing it, rather than what I've learned from reading and watching lol

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