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    Quote Originally Posted by bobrpggamer View Post
    Can you let me know what parts you picked, just for kicks not too judge, I promise.
    Hard to judge when I haven't bought anything yet lol. Besides I needed something for a starting reference. I'll still have to go back and forth with different options, be it the graphics card, to maybe a different Mobo. The main thing was having a starting list to modify.

    Wish I could simply post the link to the product, hell, Id settle for being able to post a picture, but this will have to do.

    G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-32GTZR

    Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I79700K Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630

    MSI GeForce RTX 2060 DirectX 12 RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

    Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-850PX 850W 80+ Platinum ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan 10 Years Warranty Compact 140 mm Size Power Supply

    SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe 1.3 64L V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7E1T0BW

    ASRock Z390 Extreme4 LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard

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    ...if you're spending that kind of bucks you might as well do the 2080 rather than the 2060...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jysen View Post
    Hard to judge when I haven't bought anything yet lol. Besides I needed something for a starting reference. I'll still have to go back and forth with different options, be it the graphics card, to maybe a different Mobo. The main thing was having a starting list to modify.

    Wish I could simply post the link to the product, hell, Id settle for being able to post a picture, but this will have to do.

    G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-32GTZR

    Intel Core i7-9700K Coffee Lake 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.9 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 95W BX80684I79700K Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630

    MSI GeForce RTX 2060 DirectX 12 RTX 2060 GAMING Z 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

    Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-850PX 850W 80+ Platinum ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan 10 Years Warranty Compact 140 mm Size Power Supply

    SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe 1.3 64L V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7E1T0BW

    ASRock Z390 Extreme4 LGA 1151 (300 Series) Intel Z390 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard
    Thank you, I remember Newegg having public viewable wishlists if that is where you are at. You will have a permalink and that should be the link to your public wishlist, I wasn't thinking about the time to copy and paste everything.

    Review of you video card
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMtkUs7Fq40
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLQ_YysKC8

    Its difficult to add a video card to a build with the ridiculous pricing of the 2080 and 2080ti and keep the price down. So you sacrifice the video card but buy a better CPU or vice versa it is not an easy decision to make.So if he buys the 2080 he adds over $300.00 to the system and I think the 1080x1920 gaming is easier to get good frame rates whereas 4K would need the extra power of a 2080 or 2080ti or whatever. I am happy I bought my GTX 1080 when I did, its still a good card but it was about $800.00 or something back in 2016.
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    Yeah, the price difference between 2060 to 2080 is nearly doubled.

    Ultimately, having crisp graphics combined with stable good FPS rates is the goal. I really don't need 4k capabilities, so there is no point for me to drop $500 or more at this point. Especially when just basic/mid range is more than enough to be a significant improvement over a console.

    While watching the one youtuber I follow, it pretty much sums up what I'm more anxious to have/see over console. Aside from an updated alpha with POI's and all that lol, it's the overall smoothness, FPS stability, as well as the ability to actually render objects in the distance. While I still enjoy my game on PS4, nothing beats exploring an open world when you can actually see the damn world in detail lol.

    But I digress, the items I dropped into my wishlist isn't exactly set in stone either. It was a good starting point visually that looked like a decent option. Some how nearly every part is right around $150, give or take $10 bucks or so aside from the Intel I7 version and the 2060 which is right at $350ish range.

    I am on newegg, but don't see an option or ability to obtain a link. I'm doing everything via my phone lol. I don't even have an option to post a picture here if I wanted.

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    I have always done the exact same thing, I add items to a cart and then take some out and try something else and do that for a long time trying to get an idea of cost, so not making hasty decisions is a good thing to do and you can always look for reviews and benchmarks online when you think you have the right system.

    Now that I think about, it you have have a newegg account to manage wish-lists nad then you need to create a public wish list. I am curious to see which case you pick out, I am a massive case guy because I use air cooling and will never trust water cooling no matter if it is already configured or not. The idea of having water flowing inside of your case is just not my thing.

    I have a case I really like and it is a Cadillac of cases: https://www.newegg.com/black-thermal...82E16811133308 yeah it a bit ridiculous but I really like it for the air cooling possibilities and the way you can put the power supply and hard drives completely on the other side of the case so no heat from these things will affect your motherboard or video card and the top fans will draw the small amount of heat from them up and never across your components. 4 140mm bottom fans, 4 140mm top fans, 3 120mm front fans and a 120mm back fan for the motherboard side of the case all controlled by 2, 6 channel 5.25" bay fan controllers, being the only thing other than an optical drive on the motherboard side of the case. You can also put 6, yeah 6 200mm fans on the front or back side of the case, either sacrifice the glass panel and have them flow directly onto you motherboard or use them on the back side to cool the bottom of your motherboard and of course requiring another six channel fan controller to adjust the RPMs to allow only enough airflow as needed, so you do not have a case that sounds like a jet taking off and I have had one that did sound just like that and I needed the fan controller to cut the 5000rpm Delta 120mm fans down to whatever I needed at the time.

    This is not a recommendation, you can find a good case for about $100.00. This seems like a good starter case https://www.newegg.com/black-phantek...82E16811854003 just to give you an idea of the cost. I would suggest at least a mid-tower case to give you more room to put in your components for your first build.

    You know after all of this I would love to see pictures of your new PC someday, I just took a photo of my PC and I realized I need to take a compressed air can to it and clean the window its a bit embarrassing that this needs to be done after all this talk about building a PC but at least the photo made me realize it. Its funny how the Zalman CPU cooler looks like fan is not spinning in the photo and I checked Core Temp and its not too bad even with the dust.

    https://i.imgur.com/xAnCgSk.jpg

    I built this PC in 2008 and swapped the motherboard in 2012. This was my backup PC and I had a much nicer system I spent my time on but it died in 2018 so I am stuck with this one until I build another.

    https://i.imgur.com/81R5eMm.jpg I miss this PC. I sold the CPU on eBay which was a i7 3960x a $1000.00 in 2012. You can see I like full tower PC cases and I hate to say it but your first build should be a case with a lot of room even with the expense it will be nice for you to have enough room to make it easier to place your motherboard in and the rest of the parts.

    Five more pages and my novel will be complete.
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    This is a bit better after clearing the dust out.

    https://i.imgur.com/eQp3zus.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/55lcmBt.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/ifWihyP.jpg

    A good point to make for water cooling guys, less dust.

    At least now you know I have built PCs before and I had an odd feeling that you could be thinking "how do I know you guys have ever even built a PC before". Not that anybody would lie about it but it still made me think.

    I just watched a YouTube video and this is new to me, Anti Static Gloves https://www.amazon.com/ThxToms-Stati.../dp/B01DP6RS0K Not terribly necessary but for the price why not be safe around you ram sticks.

    Man this has me really thinking about upgrading, if I upgrade and have to file bankruptcy can I blame it on you.

    Just kidding.
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    I haven't picked out a case just yet, but the original one you suggested before is saved in a different list.

    Gonna take a good hit at fixing my car, have to replace the cpu that controls the transmission, so when it's all said and done, yeah, my PC dreams will be on hold for awhile longer lol.

    Water cooling systems are cool, but yeah, water next to electronics, no thanks. Definitely not a fan of that idea.

    I am leaning toward a mid size case, mostly so I can place it easier than a taller tower. But haven't really looked around just yet on them. I know I really want to establish the guts before the shell to a system.

    However, between my car and the desire to get a PC, I'll equally blame you when my bank account drops if I'm become too impatient to wait. So I'll call us even at that point lol

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    Well I hope you get everything going including your car, just be sure to upload a picture of your new PC, not the car unless it a muscle car from the late 60s early 70s then upload both.

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    I wish I had a muscle car lol.

    So about graphics cards... Saw a thread where many praised the GTX 1660ti Gaming X. That one sits at a crispy $70 bucks cheaper vs the one I initially added to my wishlist which was the GTX 2060.

    Problem is, is this one of the scenarios where the cheaper priced one is actually going to be better?

    If I remember right, it was suggested that the 2070 super was a better option.

    Ugh, trying to balance power with budget is a pain lol. I just wanna make sure I don't over spend when I don't need to, but spend in the areas I truly should for the long run.

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    1070 or 2070 is going to be better than a 1060 or a 2060 at least a little. I would do a search for benchmark that has the cards you are thinking about. Someone was talking about the RTX Supers being good cards as well. I know it is hard to choose a right video card but from what I have heard I would not go with and AMD card, a lot of guys are having driver issues and at least that narrows the search a bit.

    Guru3d has one and they are a good site to check out https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,1.html not as many adds and garbage as most.

    It looks like the GTX 1660ti Gaming X beats the 1070 or holds its own so that is good as that one is in a higher price bracket.

    To be honest I would go with a 1070ti or a RTX Super of some variety myself but its up to you. I think if you go for at LEAST a 1060 or 2060 you should be OK for the most part

    As far as important parts it is really CPU, Motherboard, Memory and GPU for gamers you could get a crappy sata 500gb magnetic drive and still be OK in gaming. I have tended to over spend on my case with fancy sleeved cables, cable hubs, fan controllers and I used to put UV lights and Cold Cathode lights in my PC and that is not really necessary obviously and I stopped doing that years ago.

    The motherboard will have extra features that increase cost so a good reviewed board that may have 6 sata ports might be 300.00 where another boards has 8 sata ports and be 350.00 so features are what drive the motherboard costs. It is necessary to get a good CPU however and you would not want a i3 if you want to game with newer games. RAM is about speed and latency both of which are not critical but amount of ram is. The GPU is all about gaming and computer graphics, this being the difference of the GeForce and the Quadro series as AMD has the Radeon and the FireGL cards. Reviews and benchmarks are the thing to check out differences in hardware, so just keep checking for your parts in any reviews and benchmarks they have for them.

    Haven't heard from Guppycur, he must have gotten bored.
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    Like a true idiot, I accidentally deleted my wishlist with the parts I had saved lol. But, it has given me the opportunity to resume my search for parts lol.

    Though I have looked at a few prebuilds, and one does basically have what I almost had in my wishlist.

    ABS Mage M - Intel i7-9700 - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER - 32GB DDR4 - 512GB SSD - 1TB HDD - Gaming Desktop PC

    The sad thing is it's only like 40 bucks cheaper than the cost of what I had lol. Though every part has a mail in rebate, so not sure how valid that is, cause the cost of making my own would be cheaper in a sense if all the rebates are indeed valid.

    Still, I'll begin adding parts again and see what the final tab will be this time around. I'm not currently in a rush to play A18, not after some of the complaints I've read so far. And I'm only on day 28 of a new rwg map on my PS4, so I'm pretty content right now lol.

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    I came across this discussion on pre-built PCs https://www.overclock.net/forum/18077-prebuilt-pcs/ the adds on these sites in really unnecessary but I guess they need them for server or domain costs or something.

    One thing to remember about building a new PC for the first time is, if you buy a PreBuilt system you basically open the box and plug it in. When you buy parts to make a PC, you still have to put the thing together. While it is not too hard, I remember my first build in 2005 when I was so nervous that I might screw up that the nervousness actually made me make a huge mistake, I forgot to put the IO shield in and in the process of pulling it apart I dropped my Geforce 6000 Gt on the floor and thought I broke it. Every build after that I was of course nervous and hoping the thing would turn on (the power switch, reset switch, on/off light and HD light is always hard to do without good vision and good lighting) but each new build it was easier to do and to do it right.

    Either way you will get the PC you want, one will be easier and the other will be something you can be proud of.

    I am with you on A18, I will probably not play for maybe a year or so. I like A17 and I just got used to that from A16 not too long ago.

    You can always check what you had in your wish-list in the post that you put your parts on. It also gives you a chance to experiment again.
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    What'd I do.

    ...no, just busy with work, fixing other people's messups.

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    Yeah,I know there's going to be very different feeling if I build my own. Just debating on which route to take at times. Mostly just to keep my visible options open, just a quirk I guess of mine lol.

    Serious question about motherboards though that I'm still unsure about is the numbers meaning. This is where being ignorant to it all is killing me lol.

    As I'm looking over various boards, I'm seeing Intel B360, B365, Z390 and I've got zero clue what that's even suppose to reference. All 3 are for the 300 series that's compatible with the I7 I picked, but kinda lost with which route is the best. I've seen Mobo's for $95 to $300, so the list of options are there, but again, zero clue.

    I think I'll still stick with the I7-9700 Coffee lake, I do want to keep the Samsung 970 Evo as it is 1TB SSD, as well as having the 32GB DDR4. If I'm correct, this should be a good start to building a solid, long lasting PC. Just a matter of deciding on the Mobo and GPU after that lol

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    Most of it revolves around different overclocking features, and since I don't OC, I go low to mid-range.

    I used to get the 'spensive ones, but ended up never knowing why...

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