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    Anyone else think this version is a big pile of stinking Krap?

    1) Elevators gone.
    2) Book... Books books... i want to build and kill i dont want to read 7 books and a full page.. oh wait.. there are 2 hidden on the 2nd page.. TO MANY GOD BLESSED BOOKS!!
    3) Note #2, Let me pick what i want to learn. like in 17V
    4) Storage.. Remove the brown piece of krap box and put the larger square ones back!!
    5) Transport speeds.... OMFG the dam bike is faster than the truck!... and the Gyro is SLOWER than the truck. It take 50 min to make a truck Chassis.. but only 3 min to but the ENTIRE TRUCK together.
    6) Ore colors and bottom of the world color. Need a better distinction between these... Ever see Coal in real life..ITS BLACK! VERY BLACK..

    I have 5000+ hrs playing this game. I FREAKEN LOVE THIS GAME... or the old version.. Why don't you just fix glitches in 17. call it a game and Move on!

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    Are you complaining about ore colors now that we can finally distinguish them? Im not sure about the 2 specific ones you are talking about, but refering specifically to this version when complaining about ore colors makes no sense. They finally made mining awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retiredbart View Post
    1) Elevators gone.
    2) Book... Books books... i want to build and kill i dont want to read 7 books and a full page.. oh wait.. there are 2 hidden on the 2nd page.. TO MANY GOD BLESSED BOOKS!!
    3) Note #2, Let me pick what i want to learn. like in 17V
    4) Storage.. Remove the brown piece of krap box and put the larger square ones back!!
    5) Transport speeds.... OMFG the dam bike is faster than the truck!... and the Gyro is SLOWER than the truck. It take 50 min to make a truck Chassis.. but only 3 min to but the ENTIRE TRUCK together.
    6) Ore colors and bottom of the world color. Need a better distinction between these... Ever see Coal in real life..ITS BLACK! VERY BLACK..

    I have 5000+ hrs playing this game. I FREAKEN LOVE THIS GAME... or the old version.. Why don't you just fix glitches in 17. call it a game and Move on!
    Actually I really like this Alpha... it has some problems... but on the whole they fixed the most glaring issues.
    1. they fixed an exploit. But a real elevator would be nice.
    2. YES! Finally a reason to loot again! Isn't it great? ^^
    3. Can't you? I can freely pick what I want to learn. And because levelgates are gone, I can pick it even more freely.
    4. Huh? I can still see the "square ones". No idea what you mean.
    5. Well I tend to agree with you here. Vehicles are mostly used for speedy travel. But the devs think more storage is where its at and therefor reduce their speed. WE WANT FAST VEHICLES! At least the motorbike should be fast.
    6. true. A bit darker/more varied wouldn't hurt sometimes. But its not THAT big of an issue.

    Huh... I said the same for A17. Now I feel its finally playable again. Guess that is just down to taste. (no its not A17 was a broken, jumbled up mess with no coherence or balancing bad rwg and no reason to loot. Not to mention the gps zombies )

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    #1. Exploit. Gone.
    #2. Soooo much exploration.
    #3. A17 was mediocre at best, especially with level gates. It was a good starting point, on which A18 flourishes.
    #4 - Craft wooden furniture blocks, press and hold R (Reload button) to open up the radial menu and choose the multiblock menu. There you will find (just like for frames and other furniture blocks) many things you can place down.
    #5. Complains... Complains... Change the XMLs to your benefit if it bothers you so much or invest into skills that cut down the crafting time.
    #6. It's not game breaking. Address it calmly and perhaps with enough people supporting it they will change it somewhat.

    No sense in being over emotional about things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retiredbart View Post
    1) Elevators gone.
    2) Book... Books books... i want to build and kill i dont want to read 7 books and a full page.. oh wait.. there are 2 hidden on the 2nd page.. TO MANY GOD BLESSED BOOKS!!
    3) Note #2, Let me pick what i want to learn. like in 17V
    4) Storage.. Remove the brown piece of krap box and put the larger square ones back!!
    5) Transport speeds.... OMFG the dam bike is faster than the truck!... and the Gyro is SLOWER than the truck. It take 50 min to make a truck Chassis.. but only 3 min to but the ENTIRE TRUCK together.
    6) Ore colors and bottom of the world color. Need a better distinction between these... Ever see Coal in real life..ITS BLACK! VERY BLACK..

    I have 5000+ hrs playing this game. I FREAKEN LOVE THIS GAME... or the old version.. Why don't you just fix glitches in 17. call it a game and Move on!

    1) it was a bug that finally got fixed. Don't complain about other bugs if you don't want bugs fixed. They was talk about them working on an actual elevator of some kind so maybe we will get one soon.

    2) chill, no need to get your blood pressure up it is just books. Books was a thing back several alphas ago and a lot of people been wanting them back. It is good that they got them back in my opinion and hopefully once they get things balanced out more they will fill even better.

    3) why can't you? It isn't level locked anymore in a way at least. Sure some stuff you gotta get x amount of points for that only comes with leveling up before buying into something but at least now you don't spend x amount of points to unlock something but then you have to wait to be a specific level to use it. Some more balancing with the way they have it will become even better then the way it is. They have already changed some stuff for it so give it time. See how it plays out.

    4) it still in game. Try making wooden storage/furniture and then put it in hands and push R to open up a menu with a lot more shapes and items. Hold R to go to it as well and to pull up advance rotation and such.

    5) this has always been an issue and will hopefully get worked out soon. Guess everyone is different but I would say this is at the bottom of the list of things to get worked on. But again just my opinion.

    6) ore looks a lot better now. Is it perfect? No but this is definitely not something that I would say is a must to get fixed. Mining to me now is a lot better then it was. Sure I miss just digging and getting excited to fine ore when I came across if I didn't miss it because it was harder to see. But it took a lot of time as well. Now I can go mining for what I want and need then get back to it.


    I love the game as well and have lots of hours. Why be in a rush to move on? We keep getting more updates as it is. Once it is done not so much. Besides it is alpha don't be like TT and see a finished game before it is actually finished. They have more things they want to do and they are more then welcome to do those things as it is their game. Anyway besides a few unbalanced things a lot of us are having fun and enjoying the way it is shaping into. You don't like this update but A17. I didn't care at all for A17. If they go a direction I don't enjoy I will move on because they can't and not going to please everyone.

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    Loving this version so far. Much much better than A17 which I could only get into modded. I love that exploring is useful again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornias View Post
    Loving this version so far. Much much better than A17 which I could only get into modded. I love that exploring is useful again.
    same!!

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    Sorry OP, but A18 rocks, and beats all prior Alphas into a bloody stain on the floor.

    A shame you're not enjoying it, but A18 is where I found I can really see TFP's vision coming together for making a great game in all aspects, where previous Alphas had some elements of hit and miss to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalarro View Post
    Are you complaining about ore colors now that we can finally distinguish them? Im not sure about the 2 specific ones you are talking about, but refering specifically to this version when complaining about ore colors makes no sense. They finally made mining awesome.
    NO. They finally forced mining onto players who absolutely did not want to go mining. Ever.

    Pretty much ruins the game for me. I tried really hard to come to terms with surface boulders no longer giving Ores and Nitrate, but I just can't. It has reduced my will to play the game to more or less zero. Mining, the way you need to do it now in A18 is BORING AS ALL HELL compared to surface boulder mining in all previous alphas. Since I am our group's miner, I need to mine for about 3 days in every 7 to keep the rest in gunpowder, and the simple fact is that I can no longer stand doing this in A18 as it is an uneventful borefest.

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    a18 is best release so far.

    a17 added a lot of good content but was very poorly implemented/released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostlight View Post
    NO. They finally forced mining onto players who absolutely did not want to go mining. Ever.

    Pretty much ruins the game for me. I tried really hard to come to terms with surface boulders no longer giving Ores and Nitrate, but I just can't. It has reduced my will to play the game to more or less zero. Mining, the way you need to do it now in A18 is BORING AS ALL HELL compared to surface boulder mining in all previous alphas. Since I am our group's miner, I need to mine for about 3 days in every 7 to keep the rest in gunpowder, and the simple fact is that I can no longer stand doing this in A18 as it is an uneventful borefest.
    I'm wondering what you are doing that you are having so much problem with mining. A18 has made mining so easy that I wish they would increase the difficulty somehow. I can go mining for a little bit and come back with almost 100,000 ore just from one vein. Now that they changed the surface ore to lead directly to a MASSIVE vein it is so easy that it borders on pointless lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzHawkeye View Post
    Sorry OP, but A18 rocks, and beats all prior Alphas into a bloody stain on the floor.
    This is subjective. There is a lot to like in A18. but for certain players (such as me!) there are massive negatives. The mining issue for one thing, see comment above. But another major one is the ridiculous GS scaling for multi-player. Solo play is now absolutely the EASY mode in A18, and multiplayer is now hard mode. Talk about role reversal? Was never this way. Since I play 80% co-op, this is proving horrible. Example:

    2 player co-op: each player has gamestage 100. Net MP GS = 320.

    Notice the problem? If I play solo with my char, my gamestage is 100. If my friend jumps in, our GS becomes 320. This is ridiculous and means we are using all our ammo on horde night to fight a simply monstrous horde with multiple demolishers. This as day 21. Yes we lost our base. We have never lost our base before.

    In order to enjoy A18 we are having to set difficulty to Warrior or above (just so there are actually zombies in the world ?!?!), except on horde night when we need to drop it to default just to have a chance against the horde.

    Compare to my parallel solo play-through on Warrior, which is a walk in the park in comparison. Very very easy mode.
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    For me, A17 sucked mammoth balls and A18 sucks dog balls(maybe cat). Since A17 dropped, the game might as well be called 7Days to Die 2(too?) with how much has changed. And from my experiences, most sequels blow.

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    This is the first alpha that I have literally stopped mid game and just said " I have no reason to keep playing" you can tout how high and mighty this alpha is, but if this is TFP vision, then they have visions of garbage.

    Recent steam reviews reflect this pretty well also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjustus548 View Post
    I'm wondering what you are doing that you are having so much problem with mining. A18 has made mining so easy that I wish they would increase the difficulty somehow. I can go mining for a little bit and come back with almost 100,000 ore just from one vein. Now that they changed the surface ore to lead directly to a MASSIVE vein it is so easy that it borders on pointless lol.
    I never said A18 mining was hard, I said it was utterly BORING.

    And while you are correct that A18 mining now yields more ore per hour than surface boulders ever did, the consumption of that ore has massively increased as well (at least in multiplayer - you need a LOT more ammo now) so this is cancelled out.

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