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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenshae View Post
    You don't feel that that super bash and demolishers almost push you into using exploits?
    Oh I understand why players would do this, but we won't. For one thing I hope and believe they will eventually fix the AI to remove exploits like this so it would be crazy to rely on it. If I was prepared to cheese it any way, I'd take the sitting on a large expendable POI route as that is even less effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicUs5000 View Post
    Ewww. The cheese itself doesn't even upset me during this horde. What is disgusting is how ridiculously easy and boring this is. I can see having fun finding the cheese and showing it, but to play this long and use it why bother? First game in history where you stand still, aim in one direction and shoot. A 5-yr old could get through that.
    As I hinted above, I think that video has maxAlive set to 8. That means 8 zeds at a time can be alive, which is why he's getting a nice controlled dribble of only a few zeds at a time coming up the ramp. Most of us play on quite a bit higher than that (I think?). I am also unsure what difficulty its on because the zeds are going down pretty easy, no evidence of the bullet sponges you get on Insane even if you head shot them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipClaw View Post
    Everyone has their own opinion of how the game should be. It is important to be open to other opinions and ways of playing. The ideal game can be adjusted and modified according to the player's wishes. 7 Days to die is not quite there yet but you can do a lot. When the official developer kit comes then you will be able to change many things that are currently not yet possible via XML Modlets.

    The most successful streamer in Germany is undoubtedly Gronkh. However, he is not a very good player but he knows how to entertain people. One sucessfull streamer I like to watch is Coya. His fails are legendary and often the streams are hilarious. You often lie on the floor laughing. So it seems to me that successful streamers are more about entertaining the audience than about mastering challenges.
    Well I'd have no interest in watching a player being clinically perfect at the game, being a super obsessed min-maxer who has perfected everything about their approach to it.

    If I did I'd watch myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipClaw View Post
    Everyone has their own opinion of how the game should be. It is important to be open to other opinions and ways of playing. The ideal game can be adjusted and modified according to the player's wishes. 7 Days to die is not quite there yet but you can do a lot. When the official developer kit comes then you will be able to change many things that are currently not yet possible via XML Modlets.

    The most successful streamer in Germany is undoubtedly Gronkh. However, he is not a very good player but he knows how to entertain people. One sucessfull streamer I like to watch is Coya. His fails are legendary and often the streams are hilarious. You often lie on the floor laughing. So it seems to me that successful streamers are more about entertaining the audience than about mastering challenges.
    Absolutely, because satisfying the entertainment needs of people who watch someone play a faulty game is far more important than the entertainment needs of the people actually playing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipClaw View Post
    Everyone has their own opinion of how the game should be. It is important to be open to other opinions and ways of playing. The ideal game can be adjusted and modified according to the player's wishes. 7 Days to die is not quite there yet but you can do a lot. When the official developer kit comes then you will be able to change many things that are currently not yet possible via XML Modlets.

    The most successful streamer in Germany is undoubtedly Gronkh. However, he is not a very good player but he knows how to entertain people. One sucessfull streamer I like to watch is Coya. His fails are legendary and often the streams are hilarious. You often lie on the floor laughing. So it seems to me that successful streamers are more about entertaining the audience than about mastering challenges.
    Lots of truth there. The average player would probably have a hard time relating/connecting to a min/max player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipClaw View Post
    So it seems to me that successful streamers are more about entertaining the audience than about mastering challenges.
    Top of my head, JustinRants, Shroud, MrGrimmz and Ninja

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipClaw View Post
    The way I see the streamer, it's about having a good time. It's not about mastering the biggest challenge. He fights the Horde, gets a some XP and talks to his viewers as well.

    In my experience, players who are too ambitious can't entertain people well. A guy who is more relaxed has more success on Twitch because he entertains people.
    It's definitely about entertainment. I'm listening to an audio book right now about how google sets goals and it was mentioned that statistically more people are likely to watch longer content how to video that entertains versus a shorter how to video with no entertainment....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laz Man View Post
    It's definitely about entertainment. I'm listening to an audio book right now about how google sets goals and it was mentioned that statistically more people are likely to watch longer content how to video that entertains versus a shorter how to video with no entertainment....
    I do not like those people, at all. If i am looking for information then I would prefer a short and concise article with pictures. But those are harder to find since youtube pays people. So instead I will take a short and informative video with a demonstration, I can replay it if necissary.

    However money is now on the table for both the creators and youtube.

    So we get a 30-90 minute "demonstration" with long stories and jokes and possibly a music video so I can dig through it and maaaybe find the facts I am looking for while my adblocker snickers. I appreciate the people in the comments who bother to mention where in the long videos you can find the important information.

    I HAAAATE what the internet has become and I feel old, thanks. Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orclover View Post
    I do not like those people, at all. If i am looking for information then I would prefer a short and concise article with pictures. But those are harder to find since youtube pays people. So instead I will take a short and informative video with a demonstration, I can replay it if necissary.

    However money is now on the table for both the creators and youtube.

    So we get a 30-90 minute "demonstration" with long stories and jokes and possibly a music video so I can dig through it and maaaybe find the facts I am looking for while my adblocker snickers. I appreciate the people in the comments who bother to mention where in the long videos you can find the important information.

    I HAAAATE what the internet has become and I feel old, thanks. Thanks a lot.
    Yeah no kidding. It shocked me at 1st. It goes to show you the internet has evolved into more than just a place to find information... probably in the same vein as why social media is so popular/addicting. Scary stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orclover View Post
    I do not like those people, at all. If i am looking for information then I would prefer a short and concise article with pictures. But those are harder to find since youtube pays people. So instead I will take a short and informative video with a demonstration, I can replay it if necissary.

    However money is now on the table for both the creators and youtube.

    So we get a 30-90 minute "demonstration" with long stories and jokes and possibly a music video so I can dig through it and maaaybe find the facts I am looking for while my adblocker snickers. I appreciate the people in the comments who bother to mention where in the long videos you can find the important information.

    I HAAAATE what the internet has become and I feel old, thanks. Thanks a lot.
    Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy? No one thought it at the time, but this world is slowly evolving to something very close to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy? No one thought it at the time, but this world is slowly evolving to something very close to that.
    I knew that the satyr was based on actual demographic statistics that were published not long before the screen play was written.
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