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    NO 1 .. Mother of all bugs ! aka THE GLITCH

    Hello
    in my opinion NO 1 bug in the game at the moment is ground glitch, It has been present in the game since day 1 and it is still not fixed...
    There is nothing worse than getting shot trough ground by someone going into the glitch, not to mention that cheaters that go into glitch can see your hidden underground chests, or even destroy underground claims by shooting them with sniper...
    you guys focus on making nicer graphics, zombie faces, minibikes and other not that important stuff and NO 1 worst bug off all times is being ignored.

    p.s. as you probably know there is two easy ways to go into the glitch, and that just sucks.

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    Hello jsokolic. Please could you tell me how to produce the issue so I can give it to the developers and hopefully have this fixed for you =]

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    I can do even better, I made a little video demonstration on how to do it... and how it works...



    And there is not a single multiplayer server where I did not see this being used either for raiding
    or killing players... I got 2000+ hours in a game so far... played on lot's of server's, and I tell you
    this is being used all the time, getting killed trough this graphics glitch just sucks so hard,
    also you are not able to hide your chests or your underground base because it's just so easy to find
    using this bug.

    So in my opinion this is currently on of the major bugs and it need's to be fixed somehow.

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    Thanks for reporting the bug. They actually fixed this before. It seems like this is a newer variation of it caused by the use of ladders on organic blocks.

    Hopefully the devs can fix this one too.

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    they never fixed it... it was here by day 1... And I have been killed trough glitch at least a dozen times...
    also some of my impossible to find chests were just found and stolen multiple times on different servers,
    my claims have been shoot and destroyed couple of times by people using this glitch, so it is really nasty
    glitch, and I hope that by making this post it will draw attention of Pimp's , and it will get patched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsokolic View Post
    I can do even better, I made a little video demonstration on how to do it... and how it works...



    And there is not a single multiplayer server where I did not see this being used either for raiding
    or killing players... I got 2000+ hours in a game so far... played on lot's of server's, and I tell you
    this is being used all the time, getting killed trough this graphics glitch just sucks so hard,
    also you are not able to hide your chests or your underground base because it's just so easy to find
    using this bug.

    So in my opinion this is currently on of the major bugs and it need's to be fixed somehow.
    Thank you very much for the video. This is greatly appreciated =] I have reported the collision issue and will hopefully be able to reply back to you soon.

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    Great that the collision bug has been reported so effectively. There is also a third way to glitch that involves using a tunnel that is too small to walk through whilst standing and "forcing" yourself into it. Similar to the glitch with placing block above head but in this case the blocks are already there.

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    I've also noticed the small tunnel glitch. It seems that all "natural" materials have a performance hack which only renders the direct surface to the players to me.

    Some sort of quick hack / solution could be to render a bigger area surrounding the player and not only 1 tile. I'll try to explain my idea in a 2D/ASCII tunnel:

    current:
    ***
    *P*
    *P*
    ***


    fix:
    *****
    *****
    **P**
    **P**
    *****
    *****


    P=player crouching
    *=stone / dirt / any not crafted material you can glitch through

    After thinking about it right now it could be also be sufficient to render all stone (etc) blocks completely surrounding the player, not just the surface, so even if a player glitches through a tunnel wall he will just see the inner part of a stone block.

    PS: I'm a database / backend guy and never did any 3D programming, so maybe it's just crap what I was thinking, but it would be nice to know if it makes any sense what I've written here.

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    The latter would require using roughly the double amount of vertices which means much more GPU power would be required.
    The "easiest" solution to the problem in general is to test if the camera is inside a block/collides and fill the screen with a texture if it is (even though this doesn't work that good if only one part of the camera is inside the block).
    Anyone who creates a hack can of course remove that overlay but it would at least make exploiting that glitch harder for normal players.
    Last edited by DerPopo; 10-05-2015 at 06:49 PM.

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    i noticed it while riding minibike in a tunnel

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    1 other way to do it now is ride a minibike though a tunnel you can just fit in and get of the bike. pop your though the map

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    ergh I didn't even know this existed again! Great posts.


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    Been a long time since I made a post or visited this site, Been away for so long due to personal reasons.

    Nice to know this is still going on after all the updates to the game. Easy fix though. Just do a calculation on the player shooting and if he is shooting from below ground level up to a player above ground level slap a auto server ban on him. No reason why anyone should be able to shoot someone from below the ground unless they have a underground base and for some reason are shooting up their own ladder which no one does...

    Anyone abusing servers by exploiting a glitch should be ban from ALL servers, If they try and cheat once they will do it again and again.

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    It's a bug that is just being ignored... instead of fixing things they focus on
    all the wrong things and breaking even more stuff that worked before... just
    take a look at latest A13... game is not even playable anymore, duplication
    bugs everywhere... graphic glitches, fps drops... etc... and gamebreaking bug
    like this one is still there

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsokolic View Post
    It's a bug that is just being ignored... instead of fixing things they focus on
    all the wrong things and breaking even more stuff that worked before... just
    take a look at latest A13... game is not even playable anymore, duplication
    bugs everywhere... graphic glitches, fps drops... etc... and gamebreaking bug
    like this one is still there
    Have to agree... =(
    Sad that such important fundamentals are neglected in a game that could be so good if they weren't.
    The concept of the game is a huge hit but until the MANY game breaking/abusable bugs are fixed it's really no good.
    It drives me crazy cause I love the concept of the game, It has so much potential!
    Then every single patch that comes out hordes of players come flocking just to quit again....

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