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    Quote Originally Posted by meganoth View Post
    You asked questions. If you just wanted to do a rhetoric soap-box speech, more indication of that might be advisable.

    If you don't like merry-go-rounds, why do you continue to post in this thread? <-- this is a real question, not rhetorical.
    do what ??

    i did no such soap box speech i meerly stated that this thread is dead along with the console version of this game. the fact you lot are still hanging in there awaiting for some miracle to happen and tfp to magically release something is a joke.

    SLY please shut this pointless thread down as its gone way offtopic from the original post

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    Quote Originally Posted by maughanorama View Post
    do what ??

    i did no such soap box speech i meerly stated that this thread is dead along with the console version of this game. the fact you lot are still hanging in there awaiting for some miracle to happen and tfp to magically release something is a joke.

    SLY please shut this pointless thread down as its gone way offtopic from the original post
    Why shut this thread down? i'm sure there are plenty of people who have an interest in this game and come here to see if there's any news. Some people seem to take pleasure in announcing that 'the console version is dead',.... well it might not get any more updates but i'm keeping my fingers crossed and will continue to check here for any news or rumours, in the meantime i shall carry on surviving.......

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    Nothing wrong with hope. I enjoy 7dtd like it is. It's still one of the best creative games out there. It needs many long overdue patches/fixes.

    But I still turn to 7dtd when I want to build a cool house or a cool bunker or even a military base. To me survival was fun but only for a short while. I learned how to use every item in the crafting menu and now I can build pretty much anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by POUND YOU SILLY View Post
    Nothing wrong with hope. I enjoy 7dtd like it is. It's still one of the best creative games out there. It needs many long overdue patches/fixes.

    But I still turn to 7dtd when I want to build a cool house or a cool bunker or even a military base. To me survival was fun but only for a short while. I learned how to use every item in the crafting menu and now I can build pretty much anything
    Its still fun but usually around day 40 the game gets kinda pointless. The zombies are limited, the hordes are limited and really all you need to make is a kill pit and you have no worries at all. The game really needs the new zombie types and AI to add a challenge again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skillz_over_9000 View Post
    Its still fun but usually around day 40 the game gets kinda pointless. The zombies are limited, the hordes are limited and really all you need to make is a kill pit and you have no worries at all. The game really needs the new zombie types and AI to add a challenge again.
    I dont disagree with you. But like I said I play for creative building now. Zombies are off and supply drops are off. Literally I play to build cool things without them

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    came to check if any news, still nothing. Points I want to address as i feel what i have to say provides a different perspective (and i generally am good at articulating some things)

    1. The game is dead - Not quite accurate. The game should be dead. The game is kept alive only by the players still following it. Realistically, the game won't have an update anytime soon, and the problem with that is, that update isn't guaranteed. Long term play on console is virtually pointless, with MD5 being a thing still and the challenge virtually stops before that becomes a major headache. You can't enjoy challenge, and you can't enjoy build mechanics much either. Those who still stick to this game, how and why? Tbh, it's a great thing you can still find enjoyment, but ultimately the playerbase still keeping to this game at this time isn't big enough on console to warrant further patching from a business standpoint, and in turn is also the reason why the players should move on - hence the game should be dead.

    2. This thread should be closed - Very true. Someone stated newcomers coming to ask about things... how many console newcomers do you really think will be coming? Nobody at this time should be recommending this game to someone. This game has been on console for a very long time and those interested in it already have it. "new" people coming here are likely just people who already had the game like myself, checking on updates or still unaware of the events wondering where the next patch is. Until new information is shared, which sounds confirmed to not be for a couple of months, their really isn't anything to discuss or any questions that haven't been answered, so this thread is ultimately pointless now.

    3. The defending of any of these companies - Shouldn't be happening at all. TFP owns the IP, it's their job to oversee the usage in any regard. Look at nintendo, they are one of the worst for attacking anyone using their franchises for anything they didn't specifically allow. The reason they do this is because it reflects on them. When Nintendo does back something they put their logo on it assuring Nintendo quality, which to say the least is of high standards. If TFP cared about this franchise, they would have overseen everything, or held off until the PC product was done so they can devote resources towards the console ports and ensure it's done right. IG and TTG literally never gave any solid information about what was ever going on behind the scenes. The playerbase was in the dark until a week before patch.. every.. time. Even for the unreleased content they were working on before all of this, what we know is some bugs (no idea which ones) and an engine upgrade with some content. We have nothing specific to have an actual reason to be excited for the update, and over the several months they could have guaranteed some things that will make it, but still wouldn't even speak up on those. The business relations between all three was so broken that even TFP didn't know that console was going to fail until the players themselves knew. Why would i ever trust TFP products on console in the future? IG? As sad as it is, theirs no point asking why i should trust TTG, they dead as a business now.

    I just wanted to share my perspective. I've been playing ark and i just happened to think of 7 days while awaiting my friend to get online, figured i would see if anything new had been mentioned. By coming back here and seeing their hasn't been any communication, even a "nothing has changed" statement from TFP, tells me they don't care if the playerbase dies. Any developer who doesn't want their playerbase to leave provides some interactions to help keep that playerbase around. Consider the possibility that they know the odds of being able to fix this mess is extremely low, and the correct decision business-wise for them is to let this console port die. They don't want to say "move on people" because that is just bad, but they can't say stick around either, i'll even maybe say it's for our sake that they aren't communicating at all to the console players. Just a potential situation on their end, but i'm no quantum physicist and have no idea if that's our reality.

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    I don't think I want to read all that. =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by tresplot View Post
    I don't think I want to read all that. =(
    I second that

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    I have since turned to the PC version , even if they got the rights back today it would still probably take them 1-4 years to hit a17 on console, Better to just bite the bullet by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmishMan53 View Post
    came to check if any news, still nothing. Points I want to address as i feel what i have to say provides a different perspective (and i generally am good at articulating some things)

    1. The game is dead - Not quite accurate. The game should be dead. The game is kept alive only by the players still following it. Realistically, the game won't have an update anytime soon, and the problem with that is, that update isn't guaranteed. Long term play on console is virtually pointless, with MD5 being a thing still and the challenge virtually stops before that becomes a major headache. You can't enjoy challenge, and you can't enjoy build mechanics much either. Those who still stick to this game, how and why? Tbh, it's a great thing you can still find enjoyment, but ultimately the playerbase still keeping to this game at this time isn't big enough on console to warrant further patching from a business standpoint, and in turn is also the reason why the players should move on - hence the game should be dead.

    2. This thread should be closed - Very true. Someone stated newcomers coming to ask about things... how many console newcomers do you really think will be coming? Nobody at this time should be recommending this game to someone. This game has been on console for a very long time and those interested in it already have it. "new" people coming here are likely just people who already had the game like myself, checking on updates or still unaware of the events wondering where the next patch is. Until new information is shared, which sounds confirmed to not be for a couple of months, their really isn't anything to discuss or any questions that haven't been answered, so this thread is ultimately pointless now.

    3. The defending of any of these companies - Shouldn't be happening at all. TFP owns the IP, it's their job to oversee the usage in any regard. Look at nintendo, they are one of the worst for attacking anyone using their franchises for anything they didn't specifically allow. The reason they do this is because it reflects on them. When Nintendo does back something they put their logo on it assuring Nintendo quality, which to say the least is of high standards. If TFP cared about this franchise, they would have overseen everything, or held off until the PC product was done so they can devote resources towards the console ports and ensure it's done right. IG and TTG literally never gave any solid information about what was ever going on behind the scenes. The playerbase was in the dark until a week before patch.. every.. time. Even for the unreleased content they were working on before all of this, what we know is some bugs (no idea which ones) and an engine upgrade with some content. We have nothing specific to have an actual reason to be excited for the update, and over the several months they could have guaranteed some things that will make it, but still wouldn't even speak up on those. The business relations between all three was so broken that even TFP didn't know that console was going to fail until the players themselves knew. Why would i ever trust TFP products on console in the future? IG? As sad as it is, theirs no point asking why i should trust TTG, they dead as a business now.

    I just wanted to share my perspective. I've been playing ark and i just happened to think of 7 days while awaiting my friend to get online, figured i would see if anything new had been mentioned. By coming back here and seeing their hasn't been any communication, even a "nothing has changed" statement from TFP, tells me they don't care if the playerbase dies. Any developer who doesn't want their playerbase to leave provides some interactions to help keep that playerbase around. Consider the possibility that they know the odds of being able to fix this mess is extremely low, and the correct decision business-wise for them is to let this console port die. They don't want to say "move on people" because that is just bad, but they can't say stick around either, i'll even maybe say it's for our sake that they aren't communicating at all to the console players. Just a potential situation on their end, but i'm no quantum physicist and have no idea if that's our reality.
    1. As long as 7days is unique enough the game has a chance in the market IMHO, even after a year or two. Nobody has a reliable count of players waiting for the next version on console. A release of the version that Iron Galaxy nearly finished in maybe a year from now will be a good indicator though.

    Do players need to play a game continuously to stick with it? Do players tend to try out a game even after a few years if news of a new version gets around? These are questions TFP has to answer to know how much support they want to give the console version after that.

    2. Where would be the place to share your points 1 and 3, if not this thread? I don't know who said "newcomers", maybe he just meant new **forum users** who have not heard any news lately and might want to ask about that. I at least meant just that in previous posts.

    3. I agree that TFP is partly responsible for the damage. Not because they could have foreseen the bancrupty but because they (or their lawyer) failed to make sure that it was advertised correctly on console as an alpha game. Maybe they didn't care or thought it a good plan too, maybe they were too inexperienced to close all loop holes. Maybe telltale convincingly told them they would create a fully finished version with just the features of one of the alphas and maybe even telltale thought this would be no problem. It is quite common in the games industry that plans fail, sometimes horribly.

    That said, was the console version really a fail? Usually games there cost 60$ upwards at release, this was sold at much less and offered much less. For people who want bug-free polished games it probably still was, anyone else probably had hours of fun and it only hurts now to see a much advanced PC-version in the distance that could have been on console too and might never get there.

    Any grievance you have against TTG/IG's information policies should stay with TTG/IG though. If a company licences something to another company it can't and doesn't want to micro-manage that afterwards, especially if we are talking about a small developer.

    It still is a small developer and posting "no news" is a senseless activity. But yes, you have a point: The best course for a customer relationship department would be to treat the customers like small kids. "Are we there yet?". "Are we there yet?". "Can we play a game?". Sounds familiar? . And because your theory is as good as any, maybe it should be posted somewhere, either for other players to not get their hopes up too much or pressure TFP to step up their babysitting efforts
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    I've been lurking on this forum for awhile now checking back every now and then for updates. I used to put a lot of time into this game on console and had a lot of fun doing so, but it's rather disheartening so see the lack of transparency from the developer on the future of the console version.

    It would be nice to at least hear something. Anything. Even if the news is simply the situation is still being worked on. Anything to at least give a glimmer of hope the console version hasn't been given up on. This just leaving people who've bought and supported this game in the dark for so long now is a bad way of doing business and isn't showing much care towards the fan base.

    If this thread is showing anything at all, it's that people are growing increasingly frustrated towards the lack of any news whatsoever. Literally anything coming straight from the source means more than just staying silent. Console fans will loose interest and give up on this game eventually. I know I'm getting real close. Don't let this become a too little too late situation should new content actually make it out in the future.

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    There isn't anything new to tell. It's a waiting game.

    The Auction is happening sometime after 9 April 2019, which is when the deadline to register claims is. Until after information on that is provided from Sherwood Partners publicly, or to TFP, there is zero new information to be had.

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    Understood. Thanks for the information. Looks like I had missed this.

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    Posting this just to keep the hope on life support.

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    has anyone else noticed some new things today on 7 days to die?

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